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  1. #11
    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    From UDRS report (note the two found in 2000, are the two youngest 1-3, 4-8 age range)......

    On November 10, 1985, the skeletal remains of an adult female and one female child were located in Allenstown, NH. On 05-09-2000, the skeletal remains of two additional female children were recovered. DNA testing confirmed that two of the children were biologically related to the adult female. All four victims may be biologically linked, but DNA results are still pending. The adult was estimated to be between 23 and 32 years of age, was 5'02" to 5'07" tall, and had curly light brown hair. The three children were estimated to be 1) 5-10 years of age; 2) 4-8 years of age; and 3) 1-3 years of age. The 5-10 year old child was approximately 4'-03" tall, had double-pierced ears, and had dark blonde or light brown hair. The 4-8 year old child was approximately 3'-08" tall and had a noticeable overbite. The 1-3 year old child was approximately 2'-05" tall and had fine blonde hair, approximately 8-12 inches in length. All four decedents are believed to be Caucasian or Native American and they are believed to have died in the early 1980's. The four decedents are entered into the UDRS under ME case numbers 85-1050, 85-1051, 103-00 and 104-00.

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    perl Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texaskowgirl View Post
    Also, I meant to put the link for the other daughter up (not the same one twice):

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/490dfri.html


    I went to UDRS and disovered the two youngest UID children (that are biologically matched) to the woman UID, fit the vitals range for Yates and her two daughters. It could be possible she had a 3rd child with her (not considered abducted). Since the oldest child is pending DNA, I thought is was also possible (maybe a long shot though) she could be one of the two 8 year olds, tied to "the person of interest" in Exeter, NH (35 miles down the road).

    I've submitted the info to NCMEC and Exeter PD.

    Good work, TKG! none29 You've been busy today!

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    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    A = Warwick, RI (Where Elaine Yates abducted her 2 daughters from and missing from in August 1985)

    B = Allenstown, NH (135 miles from Warwick). UID Women and 3 girls remains found (first two found Nov 1985, 2nd two girls with them found 2000)

    C = Exeter, NH = (37 miles from Allenstown). Nov 1984, Tammy Lyn Belanger missing. Person of interest in the case also tied to a May 1984 disappearance in Florida (Christy Luna). Both girls are 8.

  4. #14
    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    Well, doesn't look like they liked the possible match for the Exeter girl, back in 1985... Doesn't mean it isn't a related crime though.... I still like the possibility of it being Yates and her two daughters, plus who though.... none1

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    BODY IS FOUND IN N.H.; OFFICIAL DISCOUNTS THEORY IT IS MISSING GIRL
    Published on November 12, 1985


    CONCORD, N.H. - Forensic specialists worked into the night yesterday to identify a partially decomposed body found in woods near Bear Brook State Park in Allenstown, N.H.

    As soon as the body was found, speculation arose that it could be Tammy Belanger, 8, of Exeter, who has been missing without a trace since Nov. 13, 1984. But Attorney General Stephen E. Merrill discounted the theory. "Considering the anniversary date of Tammy Belanger's disappearance, I suppose it is

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    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    These are the first two UIDs that were found in 1985 (two younger girls found in 2000):


    WOMAN, GIRL UNCLAIMED POLICE SEARCH FOR NAMES TO GO WITH TWO BODIES AGING MYSTERY REFUSES TO UNRAVEL
    Published on May 31, 1987
    Author(s): Bob Hohler, Globe Staff

    ALLENSTOWN -- Eighteen months after he hoisted the remains of a murdered woman and girl from a bed of fallen leaves in the woods near Bear Brook State Park, Police Chief Norman Connor did what he had hoped never to do. He buried them without knowing their names.

    They were a mother and daughter or sisters, the police believe, and apparently no one missed them for the six months to three years that their bodies lay in the woods, or the year and a half that the bodies lay in the morgue at New

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    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    Grandmother, Still Silent, Is Freed After Week in Jail


    Published: September 19, 1990
    LEAD: A Superior Court judge reversed himself today and released a 77-year-old woman from prison, conceding that her eight days behind bars failed to force her to disclose the whereabouts of her daughter and granddaughters.

    A Superior Court judge reversed himself today and released a 77-year-old woman from prison, conceding that her eight days behind bars failed to force her to disclose the whereabouts of her daughter and granddaughters.

    ''I can't imagine what will be more coercive than what the court has done in the past few days,'' the judge, Mark A. Pfeiffer, told Mary Pigeon when she appeared before him. ''I hope somehow you can look into your heart and your conscience and understand what is being done here.''

    Mrs. Pigeon has insisted that she does not know where her daughter, Elaine Yates, and her granddaughters were hiding. Mrs. Yates and her children, Kimberly Ann, 8, and Kelly, 5, disappeared after a dispute with her husband five years ago.

    ''I feel much better,'' Mrs. Pigeon said after Judge Pfeiffer's decision. ''I would win everything if my daughter and grandchildren would come home.''

    Home Confinement Sought

    Mrs. Pigeon returned to court today on a request by the Rhode Island Corrections Department to confine her to her home rather than keep her in the minimum-security section of the Adult Correctional Institute in Cranston. The request became moot with her release.

    The judge's decision last week to send Mrs. Pigeon to prison provoked widespread criticism from women's groups, Gov. Edward D. DiPrete and others.

    Judge Pfeiffer did not revoke his earlier order requiring Mrs. Pigeon to provide information about her daughter and granddaughters.

    Mrs. Pigeon's son-in-law, Russell M. Yates Jr., believes Mrs. Pigeon knows where Mrs. Yates took the children after disappearing from their home in Warwick.

    Mrs. Yates left in 1985 after she found her husband with another woman aboard the family's boat. Mr. Yates, who did not attend today's hearing, has acknowledged hitting his wife when they argued about the incident.

    He won custody of the children when Mrs. Yates did not contest it, and sued Mrs. Pigeon after the custody hearing in an effort to find his daughters. NEWPORT, R.I., Sept. 18 (AP) - A Superior Court judge reversed himself today and released a 77-year-old woman from prison, conceding that her eight days behind bars failed to force her to disclose the whereabouts of her daughter and granddaughters.

    ''I can't imagine what will be more coercive than what the court has done in the past few days,'' the judge, Mark A. Pfeiffer, told Mary Pigeon when she appeared before him. ''I hope somehow you can look into your heart and your conscience and understand what is being done here.''

    Mrs. Pigeon has insisted that she does not know where her daughter, Elaine Yates, and her granddaughters were hiding. Mrs. Yates and her children, Kimberly Ann, 8, and Kelly, 5, disappeared after a dispute with her husband five years ago.

    Home Confinement Sought

    ''I feel much better,'' Mrs. Pigeon said after Judge Pfeiffer's decision. ''I would win everything if my daughter and grandchildren would come home.''

    Mrs. Pigeon returned to court today on a request by the Rhode Island Corrections Department to confine her to her home rather than keep her in the minimum-security section of the Adult Correctional Institute in Cranston. The request became moot with her release.

    The judge's decision last week to send Mrs. Pigeon to prison provoked widespread criticism from women's groups, Gov. Edward D. DiPrete and others.

    Judge Pfeiffer did not revoke his earlier order requiring Mrs. Pigeon to provide information about her daughter and granddaughters.

    Mrs. Pigeon's son-in-law, Russell M. Yates Jr., believes Mrs. Pigeon knows where Mrs. Yates took the children after disappearing from their home in Warwick.

    Mrs. Yates left in 1985 after she found her husband with another woman aboard the family's boat. Mr. Yates, who did not attend today's hearing, has acknowledged hitting his wife when they argued about the incident.

    He won custody of the children when Mrs. Yates did not contest it, and sued Mrs. Pigeon after the custody hearing in an effort to find his daughters.

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    Glad you posted this. Pittsford (On this website) originally uncovered this information while searching for Linda and Lori Peugeot. She made efforts to get this police agency connected up with people who could help hget them listed and to have their dna entered into CODIS.

    Have been waiting forever to hear anything about this.

    WAY TO GO PITTSFORD !!!!!!!! none54

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    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    Well, after reading the article, looks like the cheating, abusing husband got custody on a technicality and that's why it's considered an abduction (she didn't contest a filing he made for custody)..... Who's to say she was alive to contest it...

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    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starless View Post
    Glad you posted this. Pittsford (On this website) originally uncovered this information while searching for Linda and Lori Peugeot. She made efforts to get this police agency connected up with people who could help hget them listed and to have their dna entered into CODIS.

    Have been waiting forever to hear anything about this.

    WAY TO GO PITTSFORD !!!!!!!! none54
    Okay, I found some of it under the Luna thread and New England Cases.... I

    I moved all the Tammy Belanger/Marjorie "Christy" Luna related items over to the Marjorie Luna thread. http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestiga...read.php?t=222

    Has anyone tried to make a match of these UIDs with Elaine Yates before? NMEC is passing the info on to investigators...
    Last edited by Texaskowgirl; 07-14-2008 at 04:25 PM. Reason: added and moved

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    Texaskowgirl Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texaskowgirl View Post
    These are the first two UIDs that were found in 1985 (two younger girls found in 2000):


    WOMAN, GIRL UNCLAIMED POLICE SEARCH FOR NAMES TO GO WITH TWO BODIES AGING MYSTERY REFUSES TO UNRAVEL
    Published on May 31, 1987
    Author(s): Bob Hohler, Globe Staff

    ALLENSTOWN -- Eighteen months after he hoisted the remains of a murdered woman and girl from a bed of fallen leaves in the woods near Bear Brook State Park, Police Chief Norman Connor did what he had hoped never to do. He buried them without knowing their names.

    They were a mother and daughter or sisters, the police believe, and apparently no one missed them for the six months to three years that their bodies lay in the woods, or the year and a half that the bodies lay in the morgue at New


    Hmmmmmm..... That might blow that possible match out of the water.... If it's 6 months to 3 years..... My possible match was only missing 3 Mos prior....

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