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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...years-ago.html

    Even though pencil sketches based on the victims' skeletal remains were released in 1985 without producing any actionable results, the advent of modern technology gives cold investigators hope that the more accurate 3D models will shed light on the case.
    Joe Mullins, a forensic imaging specialist at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, created the new facial reconstructions using CT scans that incorporated the exact dimensions of the victims' skulls.
    Once the scans were completed, the photos were then uploaded to a computer. By studying the 3D images of the skulls, Mullins was able to determine thickness of the lips, width of the nose, shape of the eyes and even whether the earlobes were detached.



    Mullins said that with the help of the sophisticated software, it takes him about three-four days to produce a 3D model - about half the time it takes to sculpt one out of clay, which is the traditional way of doing facial reconstruction.
    According to the imaging expert, however, the process of recreating the faces of the deceased still heavily relies on the skills of artists to capture the victims' likenesses.
    ’There's nothing automated about it. It's not "CSI," where you can push a button and get a perfect image,’ he said.
    By the time the bodies were discovered in the woods, they were largely in a skeletal state, making it impossible for forensic experts to know the slain family’s skin tones or eye colors. However, their teeth were well preserved.


    Because the artists had no way of knowing the shades of the four victims’ complexions, they created the models in grayscale. They also chose to depict the woman and three girls smiling in the hope that someone might recognize a specific feature like a snaggletooth.

    Kim Fallon, a forensic investigator with the New Hampshire Medical Examiner’s Office who has helped with the case, told the Concord Monitor that the victims were likely Caucasian, though they had some dental features consistent with Native American tribes.

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    Investigators hope Baby Doe attention helps New Hampshire cold case




    Victims found in oil drums 30 years ago never identified

    CONCORD, N.H. —A cold case out of Allenstown that involved the killing of a woman and three children is coming up on its 30th anniversary.

    The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is hoping that the recent "Baby Doe" case in Massachusetts will generate some exposure for the bodies found in Allenstown.

    A forensic drawing of the child known as Baby Doe kept her case in the public eye for months until she was ultimately identified. Two people have been arrested in connection with her death.

    The same group that created the rendering also made computer-generated images of a young woman and three children whose bodies were found in oil drums in Allenstown many years ago.

    "One of the big problems with this case for investigators is the fact that we've never been able to identify who these four people are, so without that, we can't do their background," Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Strelzin said. "We can't find out where they live, who they had contact with and potentially who the killer or killers were."

    Through a variety of forensic tests, investigators have been able to establish that at least three of the bodies were related, and all four might have been considered a family.

    "They have different characteristics, each of the individuals, and hopefully somebody will look at the pictures and say, 'This looks familiar to me,'" said Kim Fallon of the Medical Examiner's Office.

    "I couldn't help but think about this case without the Baby Doe case, because I always wondered, was there someone out there who thought, 'My neighbors just moved,' or 'DCYF must have taken their children away,' so they justified why they weren't seeing these individuals anymore,'" said Kim Rumrill of the State Police Forensics Lab.

    Investigators said they hope science will eventually put names with the faces and solve the mystery that has puzzled police for decades.

    Video: http://www.wcvb.com/news/investigato...-case/35474318




    There must be someone who recognizes them, pictured as a family together. Or maybe just the mother, she is someone's daugher or sister.

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    30 years later, NH cold case remains mystery


    ALLENSTOWN, N.H. - Modern forensic science is breathing new life into a 30-year-old New Hampshire cold case, and there is hope that it could lead to a breakthrough.

    The case involves the remains of four people, all of them female. One adult woman and three women all under the age of 10 were murdered and their bodies were found in two steel drums in the woods of Allenstown, N.H.

    “We have not had a case where four victims were found together and remain unidentified for all these years,” said Carol Schweitzer with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

    “We're looking at the relationship that all four victims share with each other. And then we are also going to be looking at the geographic area where they come from.

    The bodies of the woman and one of the girls were discovered in 1985. The second two girls were discovered 15 years later, 100 yards away from the first discovery.

    Authorities believe all four of the bodies were placed in barrels in the woods near Brook State Park sometime in the early 1980s.

    The woman and eldest girl were found in the first barrel. The woman appeared to be between 23-33 years old and the eldest girl was believed to be between 6-10 years old.

    The two younger girls, found in the second barrel, were estimated to be between 2-4 years old and 1-3 years old.

    Facial reconstructions were the best glimpse of what they look like, until now.

    Next week, the New Hampshire State Police will unveil new images created of the victims by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

    The center also created the incredibly lifelike image of Baby Doe, the little girl we now know as Bella Bond.

    The national center told FOX25 that the new images they plan on unveiling next week could break the case open.

    An artist for the website Websleuth created images of all four victims.

    “Images in these cases are critical in spreading the information about who these children were and what their circumstances are,” said Schweitzer.

    “The public likes images, they like to see what these children look like, and they can relate to them.

    New Hampshire state police will reveal the new information Nov.17, and FOX25 will be there.


    Video: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/304...emains-mystery

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    Officials to release new information on Allenstown cold case


    CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — The attorney general's office says it has new information about a cold case involving four unidentified bodies found in Allenstown in 1985 and 2000.

    Representatives from the AG's office, state police, the FBI, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the Allenstown Police Department will brief reporters Tuesday.

    Authorities have never been able to identify the four bodies, a young woman and three girls, found in two metal drums near Bear Brook State Park. The first two bodies were found in 1985 and two more were found 15 years later. Investigators say the woman is related to at least two of the girls.

    Investigators released digitally updated facial reconstructions of the woman and girls two years ago.


    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/arti...on-6637544.php

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    New Sketches, Information Released in New Hampshire Cold Case


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    The attorney general's office has released new, more detailed sketches of four unidentified bodies found in Allenstown, New Hampshire, in 1985 and 2000 and information about where the victims likely lived.

    Authorities haven't been able to identify the bodies, a young woman and three girls, found in two metal drums near Bear Brook State Park. Two were found in 1985; the others were found 15 years later.


    Investigators say the oldest and youngest girl are likely the woman's children; the middle child isn't maternally related. New information shows they were killed sometime between 1980 and 1984.


    Investigators say the adult and two related children likely lived in the Northeast; the middle child likely grew up around the Dakotas or Nebraska. All were in the Northeast in the last two weeks to three months of their lives.



    http://www.necn.com/news/new-england...350972861.html

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    The posters on NCMEC:


    The adult female, maternal related to the first two children below:


    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1100629/1


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    Estimated Age 23-33
    Sex Female
    Race White
    Hair Color Lt. Brown
    Eye Color Unknown
    Estimated Height 5'2" to 5'8"

    This adult female is also Caucasian, stood between 5’2” – 5’8” tall and had light brown wavy hair. This adult female had been treated by a dentist in life as she had several dental fillings and 3 of her teeth had been extracted prior to her death




    The eldest child, likely the adult female's daughter:

    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1100629/1





    Date Found Nov 10, 1985
    Location FoundAllenstown, NH
    Estimated Age 5-11
    Sex Female
    Race White
    Hair Color Lt. Brown
    Eye Color Unknown
    Estimated Height 4'3" to 4'6"
    Estimated Weight 65 to 85 lbs


    The eldest of the three children: a girl between 5 and 11. She stood at 4’3”. Both of her ears were double-pierced, which authorities said would have been unusual for the early 1980s.

    She may have been ill when killed; an autopsy found evidence of pneumonia in one of her lungs. Her hair was fine, either light brown or dirty blond.




    The youngest child, likely the adult female's daughter:

    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1100673/1




    Date Found May 9, 2000
    Location Found Allenstown, NH
    Estimated Age1-3 Years
    Sex Female
    Race White
    Hair Color Lt. Brown
    Eye Color Unknown
    Estimated Height 2'1" to 2'6"

    The child is estimated to be 1-3 years old with light brown to blonde, wavy hair. She had a large gap in between her two top middle teeth that would have been noticeable to others.


    Advanced forensic testing has suggested that the three related victims were possibly born and raised together in New Hampshire or one of the surrounding states.




    The child that isn't maternally related:

    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1100662/1




    Date Found May 9, 2000
    Location Found Allenstown, NH
    Estimated Age 2 - 4 Years
    Sex Female
    Race White
    Eye Color Unknown
    Estimated Height 3'3" to 3'9"

    The child is estimated to be 2-4 years old with brown, wavy hair. The child had an overbite that might have been noticeable to others


    Advanced forensic testing reveals that this non-related child did not grow up in the same geographic area as other three victims.

    She likely was born and spent the majority of her childhood in a more northern and inland location such as northern New Hampshire and Vermont, upstate New York and as far west as Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota

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    New images, clues about slain woman, girls put in barrels years ago


    Video: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/17/us...odies-mystery/




    Maybe it's just these new sketches but it seems as if the eldest girl had something wrong with her left eye, and the girl that isn't related would have needed glasses, crossed eyes?



    A woman with probably two daughters, and a non related child. Maybe a divorced woman, who met a man who already took care of his young daughter, and brought the girl with him?
    I often think a narcissistic male started a new life somewhere, got rid of all he wouldn't left behind alive, and just took off to meet someone new and make a fresh start Pure evil.

  8. #68

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    These new sketches are great. I got on here to see if you posted them. I knew you saw it!!!

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    Yes I did see it

    I've been wondering if forensics could somehow split the DNA of the two children, take out the mother's part, and create a sketch of what their father would look like.
    I bet it can be done in future! They can create faces with just a dna profile nowadays, and it could help recognize them as a family maybe, for relatives and their neighbors and so on.

    These sketches are great, hope they get lots of tips!

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